IT'S A CELEBRATION BITCHES!
FINALLY, a mainpage article we can all read and rail on!
Yes faithful, The Bigg Daddy has returned to the mainframe ready to inflict some sage advice and profanity-laced punishment to all'n'sundry who dare to not “bring the realness”…
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Now I'm sure the first thing buzzing in ya braincells right now is "MUST KILL FROG", but after that, most likely "Wassup wit a hardcore pipe-hittin' fool like ma mang, Da Buxx, messin around with some pantywaist-wearin' freaky-deaky Electric Boogaloo orchestra sheeeat!"
First off - waddup wit da ebonics dawg? And secondly - to set the topic for the agenda, I'm sure we've all experienced those Penny-Dropping moments in history, where once the truth is revealed a collective dog-whine "WaaaaAWWW!" appears on one's face! But its not just in the finding out - to expand on the Penny-Drop, I have created the phrase Penny-Ripple to describe the revelations and ramifications which become apparent after the finding out! Popular examples include, finding out that all your great comic icons from the 80s *all* originated from Saturday Nite Live (Chase, Murray, Murphaaaay!), how it was a "anti-climax" when George Michael came out (i thought he was still sowing oats and that Gay = Marilyn!) or when you realised why kids gave you shit at school by referring to "Your Two Dads"…Today, its all about tha Musical Penny-Ripples babeeee - a must-read for all ScarfRockers! (suckaz!)
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ELO = Electric Light Orchestra = Easy Listenin Overlords!!
Yeah I bought the Best Of last week - I'll fight ya! But in the context of this article, and prefacing all future statements in the knowledge that for BD DubSac being The Best Dude Like Ever to admit his fallabilities in musical history is a big ask, so bear with me as I explain this most recent Penny-Drop…
Basically, I knew ELO sang "Its A Living Thing", which is one of those Rock Hudson tracks (ie secretly gay but totally choice! aka the Guilty Pleasure) and being the free-wheelin' and dealin' cat that I am (and recognising "Don't Let Me Down" on the back), I comprehensively purchased said Best Of.
Now, I turn the CD cover to read the revelation - The Penny-Drop - The Great Moment, if you will:
"all words and songs by: Jeff Lynne
Now, if Fancy will just keep it down for a minute, to me - this was a revelation…the "WaaaaAWWW Fuck yeah, this guy who writes Beatles/ Beach Boy harmonies singing every song about "all over the m'fn world" and sounds exactly like George Harrison and Roy Orbinson's last two records, is that same fuckin guy who I've always wondered "Who the Fuck Is That Fifth Guy" in the Travelling Wilbury's!!"
[The Penny-Ripple] Now I know why all Travelling Wiblury's songs sound like 4 famous dudes on an ELO track! Still not sure where Jeff gets off fusing Queen with Beach Boys and why he has an afro…or how the fuck one man constitutes an entire goddam orchestra!
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Earth, Wind and Motherfuckin Fire = Soul/ Disco/ R&B Sensations of the 70s
Man, I love their shit! They rock some slow freaky shit, some uptempo disco grooves - they perfected having 82 people on stage with 4 on instruments and 78 on vocals, in some tripped out one-piece superhero costume shit! Masters Of The Danciverse. Okay, so yeah, "Fantasy" is another Rock Hudson fave of mine, and some may group "September" in there also…
So there I am flicking through the gateway foldout, trying to find the bit about where the Coke pile wasn't big enough for 82 mouths, when who should I find out is leading this shit:
lyrics and lead vocals: Phillip Bailey
PHIL "THE PHUCK" BAILEY!!
Hang on - wasn't there some hella random thin-tie wearin' freak hanging out with Phil Collins in the mid-80s? "Easy Lover", "Chinese Wall"???
[The Penny-Ripple] I always wondered how they could keep a brother down with an 18-octave vocal range! The man could sang! (have you *heard* those notes at the end of "Fantasy" and "After The Love Is Gone" - El Castrato homes!) Well hey, it was the 80s, and Phil's were taking solace in each other! "Easy Lover" is a rocking song, possibly only so due to Bailey's appearance and his submissive demeanour which allows him to humour the creative-vacuum that is Phil "Suedif'nwhat?" Collins. Phil Bailey is Da Mang mang!
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Chicago = Not Boston = Celine Dion considers them "hard"
Okay, now we enter The Ben Affleck Zone, where the songs are considered so mainstream and, well, gay, that it is hard to profess your love for their beauty except over 40 beers at a local karaoke joint…(seriously, I can watch Affleck in Kevin Smith movies - thats it! he peaked in f'n Mallrats!)
Always wondered who did that really timeless song about "leave me now" taking "my biggest part away", french horns, sweeping orchestral arrangements - or that other one about everybody "needing a little time away" and my *still to this day controversial* stance on the phrasing of the third verse "After all the whoooo(WTF?) we've been through". They rock a soft ballad harder than Extreme!!
So, I'm sifting through my beloved gate-fold (as Matty Milner never taught me), and lo' and behold:
lyrics and vocals: Peter Cetera
Oh My God…..
Just one Hall from Hall & Oates-lookalike mu'fuckka is churning out this gold?? Haven't I heard this kinds of 80s rock pap a million other times before?….
[The Penny-Ripple] Now, if you haven't seen Karate Kid, I'd venture to say you've either a) not been born, b) got a BETA and ain't changing, or c) are standing on some crazy principle that Scott Baio should've got that role man! "Glory Of Love" is a seminal montage/ fighting/ fighting for love/ winning over chicks with fighting….for love!/ chicks before fighting/ love over fighting but still must be fighting-fight/love ballads of ALL TIME! Guess who sang that one too….This dude basically wrote my entire teenage soundtrack, which spookily actually involved a crusty old martial arts instructor, moving to Jersey (Mandurah), and Billy Zabka! No shit!
So now its back to you, dear shithead (just testing to see if anyone read to this point), to state your…
GREAT MOMENTS IN PENNY-DROPPING [MUSICAL] HISTORY!!
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Hot Chick says:
wow, you like think really cool things and stuff, and I would like totally make out with you if I wasn't just words on a page…
xxoo
Hot Chick :love:
KL says:
It takes a Bigg Daddy to admit his failings, especially musically.
I can understand that you didn't know about the Phil Bailey thing, I'm a bit surprised you hadn't worked out the Jeff Lynne thing, but I am absolutely flabbergasted that you were unaware that Peter Cetera was the lead-singer-and-everything-else for Chicago!!!
I thought for sure that was common knowledge in the BDW household. You must have been really blown away by that little revelation. No wonder you had to write about it.
I am trying to think of my own penny ripple moments. I think that most of mine are actually based around hearing the original version of a song that was sampled in a track when I never realised it was a sample (for example Basement Jaxx's "Where's Your Head At" is taken straight from a Gary Numan tune).
Alongside that, when I found out that The Neptunes were responsible for about 8 number ones in a row including "Hot in Herre", "Shake Your Ass", "Slave 4 U" and "Milkshake".
More to come as I remember them.
B-Diddy DubSac says:
For perspective, those 3 examples were over the past 6 years or so, but obvioulsy you need a bit of musical history/experience to even be looking at this shit…
But what u mentioned re:samples, is what [Shannon Noll LP!]…f'rinstance - heard Dr Dre "The Chronic" over 1,000 times and only in the past 4 years have I been focusing on tracking down all the original P-Funk, and Lowrider classics from the late 70s early 80s which had never even seen the shores of Orzland at the time they were originally released (still saving that gold for Aid in Asia in [s]April[/s] August?)
Warney says:
BTW, Hot Chick, drop me a line. I got the real shit going on. Just call me "Easy Lover". Simone is GORN, baby, it's just you and me…
fancy dave says:
I share KL's concerns about Lynne et Cetera (BOOOOOOM!! BOOOOOM!!) and every one of each of their achievements not being at or near the centre of your mind at all times, BDW, but commend you on both your excellent taste in fromage and your unwillingness to conceal said taste.
Personally, I cannot possibly begin to attempt scratching the wrapper on top of the surface of this debate, owing to the inconcievably inky depths of my musical knowledge, but here's a chicken bone for the hungry rabble:
The co-writer and backing vocalist on the finest slow-dancer of all time, C.L.'s Time After Time, was none other than Rob Hyman from seminal eighties band The Hooters, whose LP Nervous Night was my second autonomous purchase; to this day getting a regular spin on the ol' Victrola at Chez Fancy. He also plays keys on the album (Cindy's She's So Unusual, that is) so he's also responsible for THE definitive hilarious plinky synth solo, on "Gs just wanna have F." Listen for the last little flurry before the singing comes back and STAND IN AWE.
Further to KL's Basement Jaxx reference; howsabout "Red Alert" being almost entirely a sample of Locksmith's "Far Beyond". Add a kick drum and a vocal (albeit a pretty inspired one) and you got cash money galore. Wish I'd done it.
B-Diddy DubSac says:
That's Au++ FnC! All You Zombies!! exactly what Im Shannon Noll-ing about! The Penny-Ripple effect is strong with this one!
Another quickie: remember watching that History Of Pop/Oz, and the Penny-Ripple that Vanda & Young basically wrote every Oz pop song from thereon after!
Also, why does it not surprise me that The Jaxx (who I still hold to this day as owing me $80 for The Worst "Concert" Evah!) are guilty of grand theft audio, plus a kickdrum…damn them and their inate sense of funk!
KL says:
Nice, Fancy, nice. I have plenty plinky plink in my head, and I like it.
Just a quick aside, how about Joe Satriani doing BACKING VOCALS on Crowded House's mega-hit debut album?
He was in the studio next door making "Surfing With the Alien", heard what the House were doing and asked Mitchell Froom (producer/keyboardist) if he could get in on the action… with some sweet sweet HARMONY SINGING.
That one has to go in the WTF? category for sure.
And yeah, you are right about BJ, BDW. They OWE us big time! I can't believe the only time I actually saw them was the time they decided that an hour and half of shitty DJing at Metros was a fair deal. Cunts.
ms lee says:
Living with Dave is a lot like being forced to read this page over and over again.
B-Diddy DubSac says:
You're just jealous coz he never told you the "et Cetera" gag and he's still got your Hooters album…
(PS are you also "Hot Chick"? coz I hear u live in Perth these days ;)
fancy dave says:
Not sure I like where this is heading…
Except that if living with me is like reading this page over and over you are SET FOR LIFE, DARLIN'!!!! Cos this is a freakin' GOLD MINE!!! (sorry, au++ mine).
Seriously, though, everybody get the lead out. This is an opportunity to learn a lot about each other in a structured and non-threatening environment.
Except for the threats.
And lack of structure.
It is definitely an environment, though. Or is it?………
Perhaps "Hot Chick" (whose inimitable dissing style I too recognised - well done BDW) could help me here. If it IS an environment, is the way we're acting within it sustainable? And if not, what kind of consensus need we build before starting to look at designing a plan of action? And how many committees will that entail?
KL says:
Well said, Fancy. I think.
Another thing that always brings the penny ripple into effect is seeing who produced and engineered albums (you'll like this tack, Fancy).
For example:
Alan Parsons engineered Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" before embarking on the Alan Parsons Project. Alongside him was a man by the name of Chris Thomas. Now Chris had first worked with George Martin and played some keyboards on The White Album. After working with Floyd he went on to produce albums for Wings, Roxy Music, Eno, The Sex Pistols, The Pretenders, Pete Townshend, Violent Femmes, Elton John, INXS, Pulp, and the soundtracks to Pretty in Pink, The Lost Boys and (wait for it)The Lion King,
Now that is a pretty good line up (even with The Lion King stinking the place up).
The king of this shit is Brian Eno. Trying to track his credits is nigh on impossible. I dare you to try.
fancy dave says:
'twould* be madness to try. Except I'm pretty sure he didn't ever work with them, or Them, so maybe by process of elimination we can do more than just shit.
*how is one to format a sentence beginning with an apostrophe? Should I have capitalised the 'T'? Maybe we should develop a special capital apostrope. I think so.
theHirsch says:
Back on the music trivia topic, I am constantly telling people about Icehouse's "Electric Blue" being co-written by John Oats (of Hall & Oats fame).
I also think it's interesting that Sheryl Crow, between bouts of wallowing in a gutter with her own vomit, is quite the popular session muso. She's recorded accordian for Johnny Cash; vocals and accordian for Neil Finn; backing vocals/vocals for Foreigner, Counting Crows, Kenny Loggins, Jimmy Buffet, Taj Mahal, Indigo Girls, and Fleetwood Mac; vocals, bass and guitar for Stevie Nicks; duets with Kid Rock, Willie Nelson, Dwight Yoakam; as well as producing tracks/albums for Stevie Nicks and the Dixie Chicks.
If you think that list is impressive, you should see the credits for Me'shell Ndegeocello. She's recorded phatttt bass and vocals for Chaka Khan, John Cougar Mellencamp, Vanessa Williams, Eric Benet, Basement Jaxx, and Rahzel; bass for Madonna, Carlos Santana, Alanis Morissette, Joshua Redman, Joan Osborne, Boney James, Indigo Girls, Roy Hargrove, Joe Henry, Lamb, Rolling Stones, and Gilles Peterson; synthesizer and vocals for Marcus Miller; synthesizer and bass for Jason Miles; and piano and vocals for the Blind Boys of Alabama.
If she wasn't a lesbian, and I could bring myself to be with a woman, she'd be pretty high on the list.
Blazin Billy Zabka says:
NEW Musical Trivia for the day:
DID YOU KNOW?
On this day (16 August 2005) - marks the anniversary of Elvis's death, but also marks a historical date for a triumvate of Oz Music Legends!!
1) Mental As Anything are formed!
2) Midnight Oil are formed!
3) Tim Farris's birthday also signals then demise of "The Farris Brothers" and the birth of "Uncanny X-Men"*!
* (i mean, INXS whatevers)
KL says:
Hey Mr Hirsch, did you know that Oates fact before I told you? Not trying to take credit or nothing, but I was just trying to remember who told me… I think I must have seen it on telly or something.
theHirsch says:
Nope, it's all you KL. You told me that at Charlie's party when you were dishin' up the tunes. I later confirmed the Oates thing with Fancy.
O'Milsner says:
Man,I am lovin' this shit. Here's me most recent penny dropper. Neneh Cherry's 'Buffalo Stance' features some sounds that are in Malcolm Mclaren's earlier hit 'Buffalo Gals' - that 's probably why it's called Buffalo Stance - when I worked that out I was real proud.
Re Jeff Lynne - Did y'all know that Paul, George and Ringo allowed Jeff to fulfill all his Beatles fantasies by letting him be producer for those two terrible, ghoulish Anthology singles - Free As a Bird and Real Love? Well they did.
theHirsch says:
On a similar topic, I just had the misfortune of listening to Rod Stewart's cover of "Weak" by Skunk Anansie… What was I expecting?
Blazin Billy Zabka says:
That was a good one Matt - altho the Jeff Lynne "Free As A Bird" falls into place, as does every post-1980 Roy Orbinson song….(i think Jeff must have a book of Generic Failsafe Melodies, coz Free As A Bird got me sucked in too!)
Now I'm just namedropping, but shit, its musically related:
Melissa Ethridge stole Lou Diamond Phillips' girlfried, dyked her out, and then had David Crosby's baby via IVF!!!
Of all the sperm in the world, why would you avidly SEEK OUT that of a renowned drug abuser and not even the 2nd best "name" in his own band! Odds that this kid is called "Toycar" and snorting lines at age 6, whilst denouncing his two mums on metal-sludge.com? 2-1on!
badger says:
How's this? Actress Kate Hudson is the daughter of famous actress Goldie Hawn. Although her real father is Bill Hudson, who appeared in the Love Boat and the Brady Bunch (amongst many others), she considers her "real father" to be mega star Kurt Russell, from such films as Big Trouble in Little China ("a girl with green eyes"!!!) and that one where his wife gets kidnapped in the desert and he has to search for her in a boat. Oh and that other one with Goldie Hawn where you get to look up her skirt and see her 40+ year old ass in a thong. Not only that but her husband is Chris Robinson from has been stoner rockers the Black Crows - and ironically, Kate Hudson's biggest role was in almost famous, which was directed by, that's right, Cameron Crowe!!!! Truly a penny ripple moment supreme!!!
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Blazin Billy Zabka says:
More…
Everyone knows, loves and lives for "One Night In Bangkok", as sung by the immortal Murray Head….?
Anyways, the point is, we all knew this was from possibly the only popular musical written in the past 30 years, "Chess", which was written by Tim Rice…but do you know who wrote the score for the entire musical, including "One Night…" and "I love him"(?)…
Also known as Benny and Bjorn?
(hint: it ain't Aqua…)
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