27 Oct 2004

Framing the issues

Posted by Bigg Daddy Wallbuxx | Filed under: News

Giovanni posted an interesting article in the comments of the previous news item and Barney quite rightly suggested it should come up for discussion in its own right. In the article and the follow-up article, Linguistics professor George Lakoff looks at how conservatives use language to dominate politics… the articles deal with American politics, but many of the issues transfer easily to Australian politics.

The articles support a lot of the ideas that were discussed earlier on kilbot.net, including Gawain's proposition for a Left-wing think tank and Fancy's call for a campaign to reverse this misnomer of lefties being elitist… Lakoff doesn't discuss my LSD theory explicitly, but he's from UC Berkeley so you know he would agree.

33 Responses to “Framing the issues”

  1. Giovanni says:

    Lakoff? Lakoff!

    That's sum kinda foreign name!

    Goddamn communist homo.

  2. Giovanni says:

    But seriously folks, I sent these pieces out to my comrades and below are extracts from one response from a young doctor friend of mine - let's call him, Michael W:

    "The transcript about the various ways to 'frame' concepts in language is very interesting.  I have actually read reasonably widely on this topic already looking at language in a therapeutic context.  The idea of manipulating language to change perceptions also appeals to my creative sensibilities..

    …we could manipulate language in order to try a reinstall a sense that community values are important..that there is more to being a citizen than fucking interest rates…

    might have to reframe the 'fuck' word..

    …all great things require effort above all else.  As my favorite music video director, Michel Gondry said "Many of my friends have great ideas..they just don't go out and direct them"

  3. Tom Ketes says:

    An example of this is the debate on extending civil marriage rights to gays and lesbians that was resparked when Bush said that he is not opposed to state-by-state recognition of civil unions. One thing that liberals need to learn from neo-conservatives is <a href="http://summerlovestory.com/frames/gay_marriage.html">how to better frame issues</a> in terms favorable to the desired outcome. A good example is how anti-gay rights advocates have seized the movement for extending civil marriage rights as a way to bolster the religious political base and to oppose civil rights for gays and lesbians. They use message discipline along with discourse framing to get their message across - regardless of how their views are reported.

  4. Frame THIS! says:

    <center>[img]http://www.kilbot.net/news/uploads/brent.gif[/img]</center>

    <center>[i][b]Flashdance fused with MC Hammer shit![/i][/b]</center>

  5. Giovanni says:

    That's the best thing I have ever seen - and I'm not one for making wild statements.

  6. Giovanni says:

    That's the best thing I have ever seen - and I'm not one for making wild statements.

  7. KL says:

    …or repeating yourself!

  8. B-Diddy DubSac says:

    Its true becoz its true!

    Sorry to derail the thread, but in my heart of hearts, and I say this without a scerrick of hyperbole - this is MY greatest, if not THE greatest, P.O.A.T. (Post Of All Time)…

    (and you can hum "Disco Inferno" in your head whilst watching! - man, that side-to-side shit IZ tha shit!…and the dudes are like "Wha?")

  9. Barney says:

    You can say that again, Diddy. That shit is HILARIOUS! I'm convinced - side to side all the way…

  10. Ricky Gervais says:

    I am officially the funniest mofo on the planet.

  11. David Brent says:

    Hi kids, this is my new hit single, Free Love Freeway.

    Pretty girl on the hood of a Cadillac, yeah,
    She's broken down on Freeway 9.
    I take a look and her engine's started,
    I leave her purring and I roll on by. Bye Bye!

    Free love on the free love freeway,
    The love is free and the freeway's long.
    I got some hot love on the hotlove highway,
    I ain't going home cos' my baby's gone.

    A little while later, see a senorita.
    She's caught a flat trying to make it home.
    She says "Por favor, can you pump me up?"
    I say, "Muchos gracias, adios. Bye Bye."

    Little while later I see a cowboy crying,
    I said, "Hey buddy, what can I do?"
    He says, "I lived a good life, had about a thousand women."
    I said "Why the tears?", he says "'cause none of them was you."

  12. (Not So) Tiny Dancer says:

    [img]http://www.guiltydesigns.com/images/fatkid.gif[/img]

  13. killer says:

    what the hell happened to this thread? starts off all serious and then breaks out into a disco…

    oh well, i guess it is nearly friday

    <center><img src="http://www.kilbot.net/news/uploads/hammer2.gif" alt="Hammer Time" /></center>

  14. KL says:

    I think you are seeing the breakdown of modern society in action.

    Politics gets too overwhelming, people switch off, and then they start dancing.

    I'm just gonna go and sit on my turntable and reminisce about the good times, and ignore the bad…

    <p align=center>[img]http://www.djkl.com/uploads/cats/catTT.gif[/img]</p>

  15. Barney says:

    I think that post from Tom Ketes was under-punctuated and over-exampled…

    I have to think too hard at work to come here and not be able to get away. I'll take the dancing every time. Keep em rolling, y'all.

  16. Barney says:

    Don't get me wrong - it was well said and all… not dissin the brutha.

  17. killer says:

    hmmm.. so what we need to do is combine politics with the mind-numbing repetition of animated gifs… here goes…

    <center><img src="http://www.kilbot.net/news/uploads/bush.gif" alt="Sucker of Satan's Cock" /></center>

  18. hamish says:

    [img]http://soul.scan.swin.edu.au/~hinnesbrown/i4getwhat8was4/spidey.gif[/img]

  19. Satan says:

    Please remove that rather insulting gif. I resent the implication that I would let a total fuckwit like Dubya touch my magnificent evil cock.

  20. badger says:

    [img]http://www.chax.net/golf-mini.gif[/img]

  21. Giovanni says:

    We [i]text[/i] framing the issues.

  22. Giovanni says:

    Damn it, I said 'are' not TEXT. Why don't your italics work!

  23. Blazin Billy Zabka says:

    Methinks coz you are a [b]text[/b] of a stupid [i]text[/i] lacking the requisite [size=4]text[/size] to even know where to stick your [glow=red,2,1]TEXT[/glow] when even a transvestite [url=http://www.url.com]address[/url] would know their [color=red]text[/color] from their [sub]text[/sub] you [u]text[/u] son of a [shadow=red,left,1]TEXT[/shadow]….

    If you think of Bats as Benny [& The Jets] and the the bomb as Geelong's Finals chances, this picture makes sense…or not, whatever, I got [b]text[/b] to [i]text[/i] knowhatimsayin!

    <center>[img]http://www.kilbot.net/news/uploads/batmanbomb.gif[/img]</center>

  24. Giovanni says:

    The absence of Big Ben is a shame, but looks like we got 'Oh Brad!' Ottens and Nathan 'Brother of Gary, Son of Gary' Ablett just in time…

  25. killer says:

    Careful Geeves, Satan has got a taste for it now…
    <center><img src="http://www.kilbot.net/news/uploads/geeves.gif" alt="Geeves" /></center>

  26. Giovanni says:

    I give much better head than George W.

  27. Giovanni says:

    IN SEARCH OF WANG

    Some of you may be familiar with Mr Wang, Al Czervik's friend in Caddyshack. Wang only appears in Al Czervik/Rodney Dangerfield's first scene and then vanishes. He has no lines of his own, but made a lasting impression on me.

    I started researching Wang recently and found that he was listed in the credits as being played by Dr Dow. I found a Dr Dow "biography" that included no details of Dow, no first name, no photograph and a filmography that included only Caddyshack.

    A little more research revealed that he was a history professor at Florida Atlantic University!

    "When I was at Florida Atlantic U, one of my professors was Dr. Tsung I. Dow "Mr. Wang". I'd always hit him with the line "Hey Wang, I think this place is restricted. Don't tell anybody you're Jewish." Dr. Dow always laughed at that."

    "Master (George W.) Alexander earned a Baccalaureate Degree in Business Administration from Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton, Florida in 1979 and did graduate work in Asian history at the same university under Dr. Tsung I. Dow."

    Does anyone else know anything about Wang?

  28. Billy Zabka says:

    Hey, he might've acted with me in [i]One Of The Boys[/i] but I was pretty wacked on coke thinking I had an illustrious career in front of me and it could have been Al Leong - y'know Mr Asian Baddy in every f'n action film since [i]Big Trouble Little China[/i] and the dude that eats the snickers in [i]Die Hard[/i]….

    Anyways, back on topic - sorry to kill the thread, but nothing will top this [url=http://www.furiousbalancing.com/]Best Dancing Gifs In Tha Universe![/url] - it even has extended Brent-work, and some quality gold at the bottom of the page…

    Don't forget, I'm still working…and available…

  29. Billy Zabka says:

    Okay, I lied, but this one's for my esteemed "Agent" Killa K.Kiblowsky

    [img]http://www.kilbot.net/news/uploads/vin.gif[/img]

    Oh Vinny Mac - what WON'T you do for the fans!

  30. killer says:

    Thanks Billy, wrestlin' gifs are the shit… (says me)

    <center><img src="http://www.kilbot.net/news/uploads/stomp.gif" alt="stomp" /></center>

  31. Barney says:

    But once again - a great thread there Jeeves. You gotta start putting those in as news items on the front page, man. I will go out in search of the Wangs of this world.

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